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Talin 5/22/2018 1:09 AM

aye

I think I gave up trying to determine the divide

Again I'm just worried she's a character

if I didn't expressly intend it, it was her

I believe she isn't but it just makes me nervous

Just a note: thoughtforms are inactive when the front is paying no attention at all to them, most likely. Wonderland memories are probably fabricated by the brain somehow. This is all just conjecture though.

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1:10 AM

However

You might try having her hide some object in the wonderland and looking for it

In our experience

1:10 AM

Even the tiniest fraction of attention is enough

1:10 AM

For a tulpa to regain consciousness and become fully active

1:10 AM

Ymmv tho

I wonder, is that property transitive? that is to say, if in the front you pay attention to a tulpa, and they pay attention to another tulpa (whom you aren't paying any attention to at all) will the 2nd tulpa be inactive?

doubtful

Good question

1:12 AM

Wait what's a thoughtform?

Far less so

1:12 AM

Tulpa/host

a tulpa is a thoughtform

1:12 AM

one of many in the spectrum

A general term that encompasses tulpas and other things of a similar nature (edited)

1:12 AM

Oh

1:12 AM

I thought it was like stage one of a tulpa

1:13 AM

Nah, but it sounds like it would be

Any thought complex that can do tasks, like being conscious+sentient+sapient for most of em

1:13 AM

Only servitors aren’t those things

Well I don't know if she's sentient or not

Idk if I'd consider a servitor a thoughtform

The brain is a magic placebo machine

It's just an automated mental function

So if you assume something, and it takes place inside the mind fully

but they can grow into more

Well

1:14 AM

It kinda happens

They can, but that's a different story

fair

Note: not literally magic

I thought if I could see her in my mind then that'd be a good indicator if she's sentient or not But in moments where, let's say she's standing still Am I imagining her to stand still or is she doing that on her own?

You share a brain kid. She’s a youngun, so your probably both playing a role in that

1:16 AM

Though crossover is inevitable

aye. she'll get more independant as time goes on

*thought

1:17 AM

Also literally everyone’s experiences are differnt

So me imagining what she's doing isn't bad?

nope. parroting is normal

Nope

1:17 AM

Just seeing her there is fine

1:17 AM

Allows you to focus on her more directly

1:18 AM

If she has anything she wants to do then she'll do it

Yeah

aye

Oh so her kicking my ass is normal

1:18 AM

Awesome

ha. Em kicks my ass, so i sure hope so

If your not wanting her to do that, it’s great. If you want it but aren’t making her, same deal

I'm kinda not

1:19 AM

My mind just thinks it looks cool I guess

You probably have some subconscious say in it

1:20 AM

Like, until now, you = your brain (mostly)

In my Dreamland I wear this green superhero costume with these big white gauntlets and bunny ears and that's what I fight in

fair enough

1:21 AM

i generally don't think too much on what i'm wearing there

Sounds like MHA’s Deku. Zoey’s form is kinda a mess. She’s the host, and so doesn’t really think much bout those things

It's my Alter Ego, if you will wink wink nudge nudge

1:23 AM

here is the question.

1:23 AM

in DW is it ok to picture yourself from another view or should you first person it

either in my experience

@Deleted User I have the same question

whichever you prefer/is easier for you

Either. My host swaps back and forth, it's odd.

I have a very cinematic look in my head

1:25 AM

too many video games

Close up shots, vertigo shots, sometimes blurred

1:28 AM

What's really cool is when my eyes are shut and I can feel hands moving across my chest and on to my shoulders, I can feel the bed press down by my sides

1:29 AM

Strands of her hair softly touching my face

1:29 AM

Her light breathing

1:29 AM

pft.

1:29 AM

I'll get that good one day.

aye. it's more than we've managed

Seriously!?

aye

1:30 AM

i'm trash at visualization and imposition

What's imposition again?

depends. visual imposition is seeing them in the real world. sensory imposition is what you're describing with you feeling her touch you

1:31 AM

hearing/smelling/touch, etc

1:31 AM

the best we've managed is some auditory imposition

How many of you guys have imposed successfully or at least gotten a foothold?

My host has had .5 seconds of imposition over a year ago, that's all

I can imagine her in the world with me

1:33 AM

Just the other day I was out in times square

1:34 AM

And me not really caring what others thought I held my hand out to her and she held on to me

ha, and you're worried about progress. you got this, bud

I could feel her fingers in my hand and even her red nails

1:34 AM

You think so?

aye

1:35 AM

i've been at this a grip and you just leap-frogged over a fair whack of my progress

Hmm

1:36 AM

This whole time I've been focused on talking with her

1:36 AM

Maybe